Vehicles are zoned out like a mfer coz at nades and everything is countered by su85 which is too hard to flank. I always need extra pioneers to sweep, repair tanks that took a single hit and build mines, sandbags and vision they're busy too much already and also costs manpower that isn't spent fighting the conscripts. In the late game this bleeds me into losing too. Destroy sandbags and there's a new one built already. It feels like the opposite I should be going for, but sometimes it works well on open maps till into the mid game.Ĭan't go elite infantry like pgrens or stormtroopers unless it's poltawa or something cqc, but elite inf is when dozens of deep defensively placed mines appear all over the place and they have sandbags all over the place too making you lose when you close in. They yeet down two grenadier models or force the mg to reposition and there's no holding them.Ĭan't go sniper coz too many mobile conscript squads and low reinforce cost. Grenadiers don't work good enough on equal skill level even if supported by hmg, that's just what my problem is here. Double soviet with conscripts both is even worse for me since I don't know how to properly counter it. I can win against a top 25 usf or brit, but even top 150 conscript build I lose very often. But I've tried practically everything else. And osttruppen means instant doctrine choice where you can't counter their doctrine build anymore, just for a base unit it's not feasible. Conscripts scale much better than in the past so now my vet 3 grens with lmg don't cut it anymore in the late game unless I put more energy into it than my opponent has to.ĭo I really have to go osttruppen for this? It's the only thing in the entire faction I despise. Especially in 2v2 at a high level I just can't punish it with anything but a tiger which is often a bad idea against the rest of their build.
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